La entrevista la realizó Anderson Cooper, del programa AC 360, y se transimitió el jueves 26 de marzo. Que yo recuerde, ningún diario o noticiero de televisión habló de esta entrevista. ¿Curioso no creen? ¿Sería que la visita de la señora Clinton estaba encima? ¿Sería que el gobierno indicó que no se tocara el tema? Imaginénse, si Anderson Cooper puede entrevistar a un miembro de un cartel... ¿por qué la prensa mexicana no? Muchas preguntas, pocas respuestas... Copio además la transcripción de la entrevista:
ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES
Mexican Drug Cartel Member Reveals Secrets; U.S. Marshal Found Dead in Mexico
Aired March 26, 2009 - 22:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Tonight, breaking news here on the border: a U.S. marshal dumped in Juarez, Mexico.
And something you have probably never seen before: An active member of a drug cartel takes us inside, telling us how they get drugs into the United States, how and why they torture, and how shockingly little it costs to take a human life on either side of this border.
First, the breaking news, the body of Deputy Marshal Vincent Bustamante discovered yesterday, confirmed today, shot and killed, execution-style. That's authorities discovering his body right there, described as multiple head wounds, multiple gunshot wounds to the head.
Then, late today, we also learned that Deputy Bustamante was a wanted man, being sought on federal charges of stealing U.S. government property. We're talking about handguns, a shotgun, binoculars.
A spokesman for the Marshals Service only saying tonight they are saddened by his death. He was a 17-year veteran of the Marshals Service. He was also an El Paso police officer before that. An investigation is under way on both sides of the border, as you might imagine, the latest casualty in what is a very dirty war.
Right now -- and only on 360 -- you're about to hear why from a direct participant. This man claims to be a mid-level cartel member. And based on their longtime work in this war, two trusted sources bear out his claim.
We agreed to conceal his name and identity, even when and where we did this interview. We covered a lot of ground, starting with weapons.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: The weapons the drug cartels are using, are -- are most of them coming from America?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: They're from America, yes, they are.
COOPER: How do they buy them here?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: They have people, different people, youngsters, people with no criminal background, no -- no criminal background, buying the guns at the pawnshops at the stores, and taking them over to Mexico.
COOPER: So, they're bought legally here and then shipped illegally.
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Correct.
COOPER: Smuggled back down.
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Correct.
COOPER: What kind of weapons are we talking about?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: AK-47s mainly, and assault rifles, handguns, .9-millimeters, .45s.
COOPER: The mayor of Juarez told us today the violence is down in Juarez? Why -- why is the violence down? Is it just because the military is there?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Because of the military that is there. And the cartel has been concentrating too much now on the war right now, and not the business. And that's the one -- that's one of the reason why I think right now the violence is little bit down.
COOPER: But the cartels aren't defeated; they're just laying low?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Yes. Yes, they are.
COOPER: Until, what, the military goes away?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Well, we heard six months. That's what we heard, that six months is what they're -- the military is going to be in Juarez then. So, that's what we know.
COOPER: So, you think the military will be there for about six months, and then, after they leave, you think the cartels will come (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Oh, yes, definitely.
COOPER: So, no matter what the Mexican government does, sending in the military, it doesn't matter, because the -- the flow of drugs won't stop?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: It won't stop. It won't. I think the money is too good for the -- for the cartels to stop sending drugs.
COOPER: And do you think anything will ever stop the demand?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: The demand? That all depends on -- on you guys. It depends on the -- depends on the United States. If they stop demanding, maybe it will stop a little bit, but I don't think so. I don't think it will. The demand is too much.
COOPER: What kind of drugs are the easiest to ship across?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Cocaine, heroin.
COOPER: Why are those easier?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Smaller package.
COOPER: There's always been violence associated with -- with the trafficking of drugs, but it seems like the violence has changed. You're seeing beheadings now, public executions. Why has the nature of the violence changed?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: The nature of the violence has changed because the message they want to send out to the -- to the other cartel, it's a message to the opposite cartel, telling them, hey, this is what's going to happen if we get you.
COOPER: So, by cutting off people's heads, they're sending a message?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Yes, they are.
COOPER: But are beheadings the signature of a particular cartel, or does everybody do it?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: It's a signature of a particular cartel, yes, it is. It's a -- it's a -- it's a sign.
COOPER: And do all the cartels kill in different ways? Do they have different signatures?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Yes, they do. They have got their ways of showing people who's killing who, where's it coming from. They have got ways of torturing people and killing people them the way they do, so that all the cartels will know who it's -- who it's coming from.
COOPER: Torture is common?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Yes, it is.
COOPER: Why? Just to get information?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: To -- not to get information. Just the pleasure of doing it. They make it pleasurable, pleasurable (INAUDIBLE) doing it.
COOPER: So, it doesn't -- it doesn't yield useful information; it's just doing it because they enjoy it?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Yes. Information, they have information from the government, so they have all the information they can get. Most of the -- most of the -- most of the torture is for pleasure.
COOPER: Does it also send a message? Does it also strike fear into the hearts of...
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Into the public, into other people, into other customers, you know, people in the business.
COOPER: Are there any rules of people who can't be killed? I mean, are -- or is anybody safe, women and children?
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: No.
COOPER: Doesn't matter?
UNIDENTIFIED DRUG CARTEL MEMBER: Doesn't matter.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
Además:
+ La segunda parte de esta entrevista .
+ Anderson Cooper investiga los entierros clandestinos en Ciudad Juárez.
+ Para profundizar en el tema, el diario Los Angeles Times ha hecho un gran trabajo, con estadísticas, mapas animados, fotografías, reportajes y mucho más.
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